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  1. #241

    Well BRT/MRT really helps a lot jud bay @kit_cebu pero i dont think nga luag japon ang kalsada nato after 20 years having MRT/BRT.. ug naa natay BRT/MRT, wala nay rason ang mga taw na mag CAR pa kay nindot naman ug means of transportation... barato pa!!. so next step after MRT/BRT is to control the car ownership and running span



    for me mao ra jud ni ang ULTIMATE solution as per my previous post.

    The only way is to Regulate the production of Cars.
    1. Assembled Cars including Surplus will not be allowed to run the streets (Dili pwedi iregister)

    2. A policy to use a car when it reached a certain duration from the time you bought it ( 20 yrs lifespan ) (in Singapore its 10 yrs)
    a Car aged more than 20 yrs will be scraped and are not allowed to run the streets whether its condition is same as a bnew car.

    3. 1 Family 1 car policy or 1 House 1 Car policy... doesnt matter how rich your Family are, you are only entitled to have 1 Car

    4. triple the price of Cars and its Registration.

    5. Improve Mass Transport like BRT/MRT/LRT and should have the lowest fair compared to Jeepneys lets say 80% less compared to Jeepneys and should be funded under the Gov.

    6. Kung naa natay Public Mass transpo like BRT/MRT/LRT,reduce the quantity of PUJ's/PUV's down to 50%.

    7. There should be a designated Jeepney/bus stop

    8. Most importantly, Motorist should observe strict traffic rules.

    In that way mahapsay atong kadalanan, mulimpyo atong mga kalsada. I know daghan dili musugot ani ug daghan ang dili malipay.
    but its "THE ONLY WAY" to solve a LONG-TERM PROBLEM. otherwise AGWANTAHA nalang ang traffic till the next few centuries

    9. Encourage students/workers/employees to take a Bicycle padong sa work or lakaw exercise ginagmay padong work or sa school. and dapat naay BICYCLE LANE

  2. #242
    Traffic is directly proportional to population. In 2010 , Cebu City population is around 870K. That means there are 2,700 people per square kilometer.

    Unya karon 2015, samot kadaghan tawo tungod mga laing probinsya nangabot napud kay tungod sa opportunities and some people in flooded provinces like Metro Manila.

    So ambot unsa na kahay density ron.


    Solution: Ayaw pabasa ug tubig aron dili managhan.

  3. #243
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...les_per_capita

    Almost 1:1 ratio ang car to person pero ambot ug mura ba ug Cebu City ka traffic. So it is not about the number of cars but overpopulation. What do you expect from a Catholic country? Bahala na ang ginoo sa akong mga anak.


    Mao ng nag ampo sa ginoo ug satanas nga mag gubat ang China ug Pilipinas aron maguba ang nasud, makuhaan ang tawo, unya back to zero. Kay nakagamot na ang kapalpakan sa Pinas.

    Kinsa may ganahan ma reborn to new atong nasud? Nga kitang mga new generation na ang ga manage? Kay kining generation sa atong mga papa, mama maoy hinugdan sa ka walay ayo sa Pinas. Mao ng angay wagtangon ni ilang generation.

  4. #244
    Ug example gamay na ang population sa Cebu City, ang problema napud sa design sa city ang atubangon. Kay WALAY LOGIC atong design sa road ways. Asa ka anang fast lane nga kalit lang mo stop para mo left turn? Ug tiguwang ang gasunod nimo aw pag ampo nga hinan'aw ug action movies ang tiguwang aron dili ka malubot.

  5. #245
    ragnar, dili mahimo i-komparar ang pinas ug singapore...layo ra kaayo...mao nang di gyud na mahimo imong 10-year old throw-away solution...
    ngano? di pareha tag minimum wage...or salary range in all aspects in general...so, ka-afford ang singaporean mo-ilis inig 10 years pero ang pinoy, abot pag 15-20 years...

    1 car per family? possible...pero kung both working ang mother ug father or both working on different shifts nga maka-afford ug sakyanan...di na pwede?

    1 car per family? asa nga nasod na gi-buhat karon? (seryoso nga question)

    triple the price of cars? are you serious? you think manufacturers will agree to that? would mean a drastic-to-a-90% drop in sales...


    i can honestly say, if we get an MRT like manila (katong limpyo ug bugnaw pa), I WOULD GLADLY LEAVE MY CAR HOME...kana pa nga way hago drive...maguba, igo rakang manaug...maka-relax ug minaw paka music while byahe...

    and that will go back to what i quoted...the big reason why there's a surge in car sales is because of the LACK of apparent nice mass transportation...

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    kung naa pay bicycle lane, automatic nana nga managhan nang mag-bike to/from work/school...as long as it's safety is guaranteed by having a separate barrier for it...

    naa'y bike lane man tingali to somewhere diri sa ato pero DRAWING RA ang naka-butang nga linya...dasmagan raka's mga pisting yawang mga way batasan nga drayber...

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    ragnar, dili mahimo i-komparar ang pinas ug singapore...layo ra kaayo...mao nang di gyud na mahimo imong 10-year old throw-away solution...
    ngano? di pareha tag minimum wage...or salary range in all aspects in general...so, ka-afford ang singaporean mo-ilis inig 10 years pero ang pinoy, abot pag 15-20 years...

    1 car per family? possible...pero kung both working ang mother ug father or both working on different shifts nga maka-afford ug sakyanan...di na pwede?

    1 car per family? asa nga nasod na gi-buhat karon? (seryoso nga question)

    triple the price of cars? are you serious? you think manufacturers will agree to that? would mean a drastic-to-a-90% drop in sales...


    i can honestly say, if we get an MRT like manila (katong limpyo ug bugnaw pa), I WOULD GLADLY LEAVE MY CAR HOME...kana pa nga way hago drive...maguba, igo rakang manaug...maka-relax ug minaw paka music while byahe...

    and that will go back to what i quoted...the big reason why there's a surge in car sales is because of the LACK of apparent nice mass transportation...

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    kung naa pay bicycle lane, automatic nana nga managhan nang mag-bike to/from work/school...as long as it's safety is guaranteed by having a separate barrier for it...

    naa'y bike lane man tingali to somewhere diri sa ato pero DRAWING RA ang naka-butang nga linya...dasmagan raka's mga pisting yawang mga way batasan nga drayber...
    Wa man koy gikopyahang nasud anang aqong opinion na "1family=1car" we dont have to copy man...

    And regarding sa dili kaafford ug 10yr span sa car, unsa man diay atng goal? To ease traffic db? Reduce car population, kung di kaafford in that way only few have the priviledge to enjoy owning a car.karon halos mga naay work mkaafford man palit sakyanan in the amount of 500k, kung tagaan nimu lifespan na 10 yrs definitely daghan madiscourage mupalit ug car na instead of buying it for 500k in 10yrs span. Musakay nlng silag BRT/MRT makabarato pa...

    in short jud ani dili jud ni addtional roads para ma ease ang traffic. The only solution is to control the production of cars and limiting the ownership..

    like manila. Pila na ka lanes angEDSA? Pila na kabook MRT/LRT? Niluag ba ang metro manila
    dapat pangitaon jud unsay hinungdan nganung traffic kaayu,

    Yr 2000 adtong giablihan ang 2nd mactan bridge, niluag ang traffic sa mandaue,10yrs after (2010) naghoot nasad ang mandaue.

    Around yr 2007 SRP was opened, niluag gamay ang Pardo-talisay, 2015 kubot pas lukot ang pardo-minglanilla basin neg 2017 ana naa nay traffic light ng SRP.

    MRT/LRT/BRT is good as well as road widening and clearing. But ug kana ra ang buhaton sa gobyerno, after 20yrs karambola lng guhapon ng kadalanan. We have to go straight unsay cause.

  7. #247
    And to think ang Manila naa silay giimplement na coding from Monday-saturday. So that means, everyday only half of the vehicles population is running the street around metro manila from 7am-7pm unya naghoot pana ha nga halos 50%rana sa mga sakyanan ang nagdagan. Imagine that? Samot nag walay coding, dili na mulihok ang mga sakyanan ana...

    Im sure the step of cebu's government is to implement the CODING SCHEME sa syudad
    All plates ending with odd numbers (1,3,5,7,9) can only be use on M,W,F
    then EVEN numbers (2,4,6,8,0) can only run the streets on TH,TH,S,..

    And guess what will be the peoples action that "CAN AFFORD" to buy cars

    They will buy 2 cars. 1 will have an ending plate of ODD number, and the 2nd car will have a plate ending in EVEN number so that they can use it alternately everyday Which adds 100% of cars population again

    Get the point bro? @kit_cebu the ultimate solution is to control,,,

    Opinion rana naku bro ha.... Ambot lng sa uban dri ug unsa ila solution

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by RagnarLothbrok View Post
    And to think ang Manila naa silay giimplement na coding from Monday-saturday. So that means, everyday only half of the vehicles population is running the street around metro manila from 7am-7pm unya naghoot pana ha nga halos 50%rana sa mga sakyanan ang nagdagan. Imagine that? Samot nag walay coding, dili na mulihok ang mga sakyanan ana...
    dili pud 50% bro oi... it's not an exact science... my rough estimate is probably just around 20% reduction...

    and as far as i know, monday to friday ra na, from 7am to 10am, then 5pm to 7pm man siguro...

    dako nana tabang og pun-an pa sa strick truck ban sa manila... kung mo byahe ka didto outside rush hours sa buntag (9am to 10am), you can feel the difference...

    diri cebu? truck ban? way klaro... rush hours or not, same thing, traffic gihapon... even holidays traffic?! gi ahak...

  9. #249
    before it gets any worse, our local government should seriously start looking into th
    e mass transport system to minimize jeepneys and other public utility vehicles plying the road. otherwise 15 years from now we will end up like the streets in Metro Manila.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by CebuRealtor View Post
    otherwise 15 years from now we will end up like the streets in Metro Manila.
    it's going to be worst believe me...

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