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[bleedingboi]

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America doesn’t control our lives. But their grandparents gave their lives 70 years ago so we could be free. I hope Duterte has a very good plan.

[GemWArrioR]

yep! tinuod bitaw na akong sugyot nga end diplomatic relation with China


ngano man diay karon, wa pa diay ma-lost ang shoal ug spratlys considering we don't have control of it?


and i don't need to back read kay i've been here long enough for you to know in which it may holds true we don't have military powers but i'm sure we are not helpless


besides, oyon man ko ug okay man ng we negotiate but the problem is the terms being dictated by China ... i mean it's not really a negotiation but for us to take it or leave it directive



Read more: China should not set terms on Scarborough, say PH fishers

Like I said, back read, I ask you a question on what actions would you take, If you are on the sit of the Presidency, right? And you said End Diplomatic Relationship with china. Whats next, how can we take back the shoals and spratlys, we don't have enough strength and military power. whats next, remember your decision will affect our economy, stock exchange.

We can only do this through Diplomatic solutions.

[jofox]

saon man pag bawi nato daun ana lugara sa previous admin gibaligya naman na nila intawn

[vengeanceismine]

Like I said, back read, I ask you a question on what actions would you take, If you are on the sit of the Presidency, right? And you said End Diplomatic Relationship with china. Whats next, how can we take back the shoals and spratlys, we don't have enough strength and military power. whats next, remember your decision will affect our economy, stock exchange.

We can only do this through Diplomatic solutions.

looks like your the one not reading my answer or pwede sab di ka kabasa o di ka kasabot

yes! that's right .. my answer is End Diplomatic Relationship with china

and you're the one that's going to back read .. read those posts in which countries that have experienced economic embargo


and how are we going to recover the shoal, the answers is also in there if you just back read in which it may not be in your or in my lifetime that it may take long or the road in achieving such goal is beyond imagination pero murag sayop style ni digong kay 71 years old na then di pa sure kun kinsa ang mosunod na Presidente so lahi na pud strategy nga sayang lang ang kaso2x natu sa UNCLOS


okay man ang independent foreign policy pero di biyaan natu ang US ... amaw na man hinuon ni si digong kay nibiya sa US then nangusog makigsandurot sa China ug Russia nga maayo lang unta makabuhat dayon treaty within sa term ni digong nga sa pagbuhat ra ba sa treaty between countries kay mu-take time ra ba then 1-term lang si digong ug 71 years old na


mao man gyud na madali nga tubag nga di capable Ph militarily ug mahadlok sa economic effect if End Diplomatic Relationship with china pero kahinumdumi nga China ra na, di na world. ang ubang nasud man gani nga economic embargo which means world kay wa man gani mahadlok so back read kuno beh




Read more: The Constitution and the West Philippine Sea



Read pa more: The rule of law in the seas of Asia

[AggreXor]

looks like your the one not reading my answer or pwede sab di ka kabasa o di ka kasabot

yes! that's right .. my answer is End Diplomatic Relationship with china

and you're the one that's going to back read .. read those posts in which countries that have experienced economic embargo


and how are we going to recover the shoal, the answers is also in there if you just back read in which it may not be in your or in my lifetime that it may take long or the road in achieving such goal is beyond imagination pero murag sayop style ni digong kay 71 years old na then di pa sure kun kinsa ang mosunod na Presidente so lahi na pud strategy nga sayang lang ang kaso2x natu sa UNCLOS


okay man ang independent foreign policy pero di biyaan natu ang US ... amaw na man hinuon ni si digong kay nibiya sa US then nangusog makigsandurot sa China ug Russia nga maayo lang unta makabuhat dayon treaty within sa term ni digong nga sa pagbuhat ra ba sa treaty between countries kay mu-take time ra ba then 1-term lang si digong ug 71 years old na


mao man gyud na madali nga tubag nga di capable Ph militarily ug mahadlok sa economic effect if End Diplomatic Relationship with china pero kahinumdumi nga China ra na, di na world. ang ubang nasud man gani nga economic embargo which means world kay wa man gani mahadlok so back read kuno beh




Read more: The Constitution and the West Philippine Sea



Read pa more: The rule of law in the seas of Asia

A comment made out of lack of foresight and heart for the general public.

The issue started way back 1950s..hangtod karon wa pa ghpon na maayo and dli jud na maayo kay d jud na buhian sa China. The best any president can do is to compromise and talk with each other for a middle ground. Else, it would be very bloody. Plain and simple.

If we end diplomatic talks with China and rely on the powerless and toothless UNCLOS ruling, will we ever get near the shoal and fish in it? will we ever have a share of possible oil on the said region?

What did US do? They never did anything. Useless sad, kay they are heavily indebted to China. They cannot initiate a war with China for they know the price they need to pay to win one.

Now, why will we stop the development of our country just because of our PRO-US sentiments? CHina is the number 1 exporter of our fruits and other stuff. Most of our imported goods comes from China as well.

[GemWArrioR]

A comment made out of lack of foresight and heart for the general public.

The issue started way back 1950s..hangtod karon wa pa ghpon na maayo and dli jud na maayo kay d jud na buhian sa China. The best any president can do is to compromise and talk with each other for a middle ground. Else, it would be very bloody. Plain and simple.

If we end diplomatic talks with China and rely on the powerless and toothless UNCLOS ruling, will we ever get near the shoal and fish in it? will we ever have a share of possible oil on the said region?

What did US do? They never did anything. Useless sad, kay they are heavily indebted to China. They cannot initiate a war with China for they know the price they need to pay to win one.

Now, why will we stop the development of our country just because of our PRO-US sentiments? CHina is the number 1 exporter of our fruits and other stuff. Most of our imported goods comes from China as well.

got that right sir.

[vengeanceismine]

A comment made out of lack of foresight and heart for the general public.

The issue started way back 1950s..hangtod karon wa pa ghpon na maayo and dli jud na maayo kay d jud na buhian sa China. The best any president can do is to compromise and talk with each other for a middle ground. Else, it would be very bloody. Plain and simple.

If we end diplomatic talks with China and rely on the powerless and toothless UNCLOS ruling, will we ever get near the shoal and fish in it? will we ever have a share of possible oil on the said region?

What did US do? They never did anything. Useless sad, kay they are heavily indebted to China. They cannot initiate a war with China for they know the price they need to pay to win one.

Now, why will we stop the development of our country just because of our PRO-US sentiments? CHina is the number 1 exporter of our fruits and other stuff. Most of our imported goods comes from China as well.

how could it be an out of foresight and heart when the case before it was filed in UNCLOS tribunal, it was researched and studied well. besides, the Ph didn't lacked the chance in going or approaching China for a talk but what China did to us ... they just ignore knowing if they're a good neighbor in Asia then how come they don't abide ITLOS?


besides, if the issue all started in 1950s then how come China didn't pursue it while US bases was still here? so kaning mga Instik dire wa gyud pakabana in which if digong dislikes US because of it's past deeds to us then it's just equals what is China doing to us now in Scarborough or Spratly shoals


ngano man diay karon nga wa natu gi-end diplomatic relation with China, nitugot diay China makabalik atung kaigsuonang mangingisda? imbes mohatag unta higayon China sa pagsugod pa lang sa administrasyon ni digong for confidence building, grabe na man hinuon natung pangamuyo nga tugutan atung mangingisda makabalik panagat sa West Philippine Sea


ang nakapait pa gyud kay pwerteng hiloma karon mga Instik dire nga wa gyud pagpakabana. China really have bad intentions in which ang nakita ninyo ang materialistic aspects ra ug wa mo mag-huna2x sa future Filipino generations nga tingali namahala namo nga okay lang naa ta makuha karon bisan gamay kaysa wa gyud ... oh gush, what a plain and simple reasons


hadlok gyud mo end diplomatic relation nga China ra na, not world. research those countries who have experienced economic embargo nga nakaya gani nila knowing it's world ... so if kaya natu mupahilayo US then kaya sab natu mupahilayo China


Read more: Duterte ‘weakened’ PH claim over West Philippine Sea

[AggreXor]

how could it be an out of foresight and heart when the case before it was filed in UNCLOS tribunal, it was researched and studied well. besides, the Ph didn't lacked the chance in going or approaching China for a talk but what China did to us ... they just ignore knowing if they're a good neighbor in Asia then how come they don't abide ITLOS?


besides, if the issue all started in 1950s then how come China didn't pursue it while US bases was still here? so kaning mga Instik dire wa gyud pakabana in which if digong dislikes US because of it's past deeds to us then it's just equals what is China doing to us now in Scarborough or Spratly shoals


ngano man diay karon nga wa natu gi-end diplomatic relation with China, nitugot diay China makabalik atung kaigsuonang mangingisda? imbes mohatag unta higayon China sa pagsugod pa lang sa administrasyon ni digong for confidence building, grabe na man hinuon natung pangamuyo nga tugutan atung mangingisda makabalik panagat sa West Philippine Sea


ang nakapait pa gyud kay pwerteng hiloma karon mga Instik dire nga wa gyud pagpakabana. China really have bad intentions in which ang nakita ninyo ang materialistic aspects ra ug wa mo mag-huna2x sa future Filipino generations nga tingali namahala namo nga okay lang naa ta makuha karon bisan gamay kaysa wa gyud ... oh gush, what a plain and simple reasons


hadlok gyud mo end diplomatic relation nga China ra na, not world. research those countries who have experienced economic embargo nga nakaya gani nila knowing it's world ... so if kaya natu mupahilayo US then kaya sab natu mupahilayo China


Read more: Duterte ‘weakened’ PH claim over West Philippine Sea

Please read the following nalang since it has footnotes:
Thinking Pinoy: #CHexit FAQ: Mga Katanungan tungkol sa Philippines vs China Arbitration Case
Thinking Pinoy: South China Sea #CHexit decision explained in simple Taglish
Thinking Pinoy: For Reed Bank, Sec. Del Rosario, MVP offered Spratlys to China
Thinking Pinoy: PH-China on West Philippine Sea: The issue of trust, or the lack of it

However, regardless of our comments, DU30 took the step already to cooperate with Russia and China.

[vengeanceismine]

... regardless of our comments, DU30 took the step already to cooperate with Russia and China.

yeah, that's the easiest way to say amen

besides, di bitaw directly kita apektado sa panginabuhi kay di man ta mangingisda so nganong magpakabana man ta


unsaonz na lang ning ipatuman man gyud sa China, " ... China wanted to use “allow” or “permit” to strengthen its own position ... ". igo na lang si digong sa pasalig nga, " ... Filipino fishermen may be able to return to Panatag in a few days ... "


pangutana, kanus-a kaha ni nga few days? basin puhon inig ma-vice president na si bong2x sa tabang ni digong




Read more: Philippines rejects China language in Scarborough proposal

[AggreXor]

yeah, that's the easiest way to say amen

besides, di bitaw directly kita apektado sa panginabuhi kay di man ta mangingisda so nganong magpakabana man ta


unsaonz na lang ning ipatuman man gyud sa China, " ... China wanted to use “allow” or “permit” to strengthen its own position ... ". igo na lang si digong sa pasalig nga, " ... Filipino fishermen may be able to return to Panatag in a few days ... "


pangutana, kanus-a kaha ni nga few days? basin puhon inig ma-vice president na si bong2x sa tabang ni digong




Read more: Philippines rejects China language in Scarborough proposal

tricky man gud kaayo na issue. China has been in the world for quite a long time and occupied this part of Asia since ancient times. Una pa gud sila nagtrade sa mga old Pinoys na wala pa nirecognize sa ila pagka-Pinoy, iya iya tribes pa ato sauna.

Oh well.